Dude, that was not a cool analogy. Anyway, there's just one thing that I think pa1mOne could do to help save themselves, offer a.

You may be joking about MSFT, but this happens all the time. Especially on investment / stock boards. The strategy is to constantly and totally tear down, slander and destroy credibility at any and all points. Any sane person can tell it's slanted, but psycologically the seeds of doubt are planted, truth is at least diluted and hopefully the competition or the short-seller, as the case may be, helps 'move the market of opinion'.

Sounds like a pretty fulfilling career when ones life is over.:-( Pat Horne. You may be joking about MSFT, but this happens all the time. Especially on investment / stock boards. The strategy is to constantly and totally tear down, slander and destroy credibility at any and all points. Any sane person can tell it's slanted, but psycologically the seeds of doubt are planted, truth is at least diluted and hopefully the competition or the short-seller, as the case may be, helps 'move the market of opinion'. Yeah, this stuff drives me nuts.

There are several ways I deal with this kind of crap. 1) Research elsewhere 2) Take it in stride 3) Make snide comments (a favorite of mine) 4) Read the slant, process it, reguritate, and push the back button. Don't let the fanatics get in your way! I'm a fan, not a fanatic, so you can let me get in the way.;) Seriously, though, each handheld OS has its benefits (Palm, WM2003, BB, Symbian), and I'll admit that. But I'll still beat you until you're bleeding Palm.

I'm simple that way. 'People who think they're smart annoy those of us who are.' Give the Treo 650 some time to mature. And pa1mOne as well.- How much time do we have to give Palm to mature? Just curious. I mean when did the first Palm Pilot come out?

Wasn't it something like 1996? We keep talking about them like they need some growing time to get it right. They've been in business long enough and have been consistently loosing their market share. Giving them time is obviously not the answer.

I love my Treo 650, but you gotta wonder where this company is headed. I feel like they're heading to get bumped out of the main stream and into the realm of an eccentric few. Like the group who still likes toying with my old TI 99/4a. Fun, but not a viable business. And all by Palm's own hand. I hope I'm wrong. It is understandable that as a business, they need to please who they are licensing their technology out to.

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But the simple fact is that PalmOne, over the past few years, has been lying to us a great deal. A little too much.

16 bit screens? Remember that? It was THIS forum that broke that story wide open.

Now everybody's getting in on the game. We should make a race. See how many people can successfully hack PDA's to make them better than the OEM can. I believe this fellow and his T650 are already in the lead, but 'Deez' from Brighthand also has a few points to his name for the Toshiba VGA stuff. I'm sure there are a few hardcore Japanese coders that have done things only imaginable in dreams with their Clies. Control that robotic dog with the UX50's Wifi?

What the hell? These men are braver than I, and all deserve some appreciation.Bosco NX80v + Wifi + BT + T637. I own a GSM treo 650 - so, most of these patches/roms dont technically apply to myself; but, it should be noted that palmone has developed all the features one would normally want on the treo 650 itself; however, when marketing with carriers (who, provide the $$$) they have been asked to disable/remove specific features from the roms.

The fact that it is only a two byte patch doesn't surprise me. The treo 650 also has the exact same kernel as the tungsten t5, so, it also doesn't surprise me that the wifi drivers work by changing the device id/hal id checks in the application.

Palmone could have released such drivers; but, are reluctant to due to limited quality assurance testing that has been done on all the products. Of course, you do this at your own risk:) i remember earlier versions of the ROWDY (rest of the world) rom image for the treo 650 had DUN support - however, the latest versions do not. This could also be disabled because of bugs. If you run into problems using the DUN patch, maybe it was disabled for a reason?

All in all - it should be clearly noted that these modifications should be used at your own risk. The plugged in program has had support for reflashing rom images way before the device was released (EVT and DVT units) - however, redistribution of these tools will be in violation of the plugged in program NDA; users make mistakes - and, palmone probably doesn't want to be responsible for them:) - Aaron Ardiri PalmOS Certified Developer. This is the kind of stuff we need more of! It's even making me look at the 650 in a new light. (It is kinda cool looking.) If the handheld manufacturers are going to not enable stuff with no other reason than so they can make more money, weeeelll they are just begging for folks to do this kind of stuff to 'em! It's an interesting topic on it's own, but my main interest is the mods! I know some foks are going to mess things up and ruin their units by trying these, but great results often happen from great risks taken.

You could also think of it as evolution in action. I was always proud to be a member of the Palm community. However, there is one thing that gioes on my nerves a little bit. The Tapwave Zodiac accesses both PalmOne and Sandisk WLAN SDIO cards with the SAME driver. There's only a hard-coded device ID string in the driver that makes all the difference. Can't one good hacker/cracker change that and get the SanDisk cards working?

This would increase the platform's hardware support, and also make users and companies more adept to buy Palm powered stuff! Just my 2 cents. Find out more about the Palm OS in my blog.